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ArvindRS ArvindRS 09/11/2017 - 07:18pm

911 GT3 Touring Package. Time to get rid of the 911 R Ale?

The new 991.2 911 GT3 'Touring package'  gets rid of the big GT3 wing and is 6 sp Manual only. There are a few changes to the interior with a few more 'sporty' touches. Costs the same 143,000 USD as a regular GT3 and weighs the same too!

Compared to a 911 R, it weighs about 85 pounds more but has the same 0-60 times.

What do you guys think? Is the 911 R now on the VERGE OF DEPRECIATION?

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  • Mohannad Hesham
    1 day ago 0 P-Nos Points
    who bought the 911r for 500k welcome to# SVIPE
  • Maur
    6 days ago 0 P-Nos Points
    the 911R will still probably not depreciate too much due to it being a limited edition and some of the special features like the seats and the exterior stripes. But the new gt3 touring is a great alternative for those who want an insane manual toy just to have fun with.
  • somcarguy
    6 days ago 1 P-Nos Points
    OMG, too beautiful!
  • Stig's Mexican Cousin
    1 week ago 0 P-Nos Points
    That looks incredible! Will make 911 R owners quite angry though
  • MJCoffey
    1 week ago 0 P-Nos Points
    ...more like 911R for the 'Mainstream crowd'. Or the 911R for the 'ones who tried' getting an OG 911R but failed :^)
  • Five Speed
    1 week ago 1 P-Nos Points
    Maybe its just the picture, but why does the wheelbase look so long
    • MJCoffey
      1 week ago 0 P-Nos Points
      All 991's are like that. Porsche has decided to extend the wheelbase when developing the car.
    • Five Speed
      1 week ago 0 P-Nos Points
      Gotcha. Appreciate the response. IMHO, it looks too long.
  • GiuliaFan
    1 week ago 1 P-Nos Points
    It's very different looking, it has the 991.2 headlights and the refreshed bumpers, exterior wise
  • António
    1 week ago 4 P-Nos Points
    very similar yet very different
  • Lunchbox
    1 week ago 1 P-Nos Points
    I thought about this more, and really its no different to manufacturers doing a special edition to a normal production car except they did it backwoods. The gt3 isn't limited but it isn't a mass built car. How many people that got allocations are going to get a touring version compared to a pdk or manuel track/winged gt3? Or haven't locked in there spec already for the first wave of cars? Will that number exceed that of the 911r? If yes then the 911r becomes more special over time but it does shift to become a 'long play car'. I like the colour variants that people are putting out, if you can get a PTS then it would become a cheaper substitute to smash miles on and keep 911r's special.
  • DiogoNunes
    1 week ago 2 P-Nos Points
    I think it will depreciate, not much as much as some say, but it will.
  • (JD)
    1 week ago 7 P-Nos Points
    I personally wouldnt compare these two cars together. I believe they might have similar features that are visible, but i think the internals are much different(same same but different)....besides 911R will remain a collector car, because its a limited number car and as years pass and more are found wrecked or claimed by natural disasters the price will increase as number will decrease....(this is my personal opinion)
    • JoshRS
      1 week ago 5 P-Nos Points
      Exactly what I was going to say. They are very similar, but at the same time, they are very different. The people who are saying "oh it's a 4.0 with a manual, so it's the same car and the 911R is going to depreciate sooo much!!" are the people who will never have either car, and don't understand the physical differences, limited numbers and collectability of the R. One's a special edition collector's car in limited numbers, and the other is a mass-produced manual NA 911. Sure the GT3 touring edition is an awesome car, but it's not a 911R.
    • (JD)
      1 week ago 6 P-Nos Points
      Maybe for 70k vik can make the gt3 touring edition into a 911R?
    • António
      1 week ago 3 P-Nos Points
      i agree. this gt3 is just "another" manual gt3 without the wing
    • António
      1 week ago 3 P-Nos Points
      for 70k vik can do anything
  • Lambodreams
    1 week ago 2 P-Nos Points
    I was thinking the 911r was going to loose value due to the gt3's touring package but like salmondrin said there different cars one is still a race car and the other is for the porsche enthusist but I think it could still affect some of the want for the 911r maybe not as expensive as they have been
  • enzo101
    1 week ago 0 P-Nos Points
    This is an excellent idea from Porsche! For those that were not lucky enough to own a R but think the GT3 is too edgy for street use, this fits perfectly in that gap. The fact it is a manual only is just the icing on the cake. Is it a R replacement? No. Those that collect or are true enthusiasts will be willing to pay the premium for the R. Those that don't care, or have 500k to spend on a 911 have this. Porsche truly understands their clientele. I think this would be a great car to compare to the R in a head to head however.
  • oscarfalcon
    1 week ago 2 P-Nos Points
    This is the version I truly love!
  • 750181748440063
    1 week ago 1 P-Nos Points
    The 911r is a collector thing. It will not depreciate. But guy's that can not afford a 911 r would be happy to buy this. Hell yeah. And if you hear the developers, the really wanted the car sound more mechanical. Dont think the touring package will have no sound protection.
  • sageman
    1 week ago 1 P-Nos Points
    This car really looks the same as a 911r
  • mufus
    1 week ago 0 P-Nos Points
    I think that this car is the response of Porsche for the demand of manual 911 , and somehow to stop the craze in the 911 R prices.

    Porsche is that manufacturer that listens to the people, the fans and the market. And they adjust acordingly. The 911 R had that big demand becuase everybody thought the it would be the last proper manual 911. Now, that this demand will be filled with this car, the prices will drop to normal.

    Of course these are different cars, but still pretty much similar. From my point of view, i can only be happy. It gives the common buyer the chance to get a very good car at a correct price.
  • schmoopy
    1 week ago 0 P-Nos Points
    I was under the impression the 911R is a "touring" version of the GT3RS, and this will slot in the area below the 911R.

    So no, I don't see the 911R taking a hit, especially with its limited run. However, I don't see 911R owners getting the 500k some are asking for, which is crazy.
  • JohnGeo
    1 week ago 0 P-Nos Points
    Ι think this a not so special edition 911R... Also the gt3 has it's wing for a reason..if u take it out what will happen on the handling? the 911r didn't had it's wing cause it was not supposed to be a gt car but the gt3 it was developed with wing.. imo i think porsche is trying to sell more ''911r's'' cause it's an amazing car and they saw that it apreciated like a mofo..
  • salomondrin
    1 week ago 8 P-Nos Points
    Everyone out there thinking this is the same car it's not :) It's what we talk about the most on the videos: You can't understand a car just by looking at it on paper. The 911R and the GT3 will feel completely different once you drive them. The GT3 is a more twitchy sports car, while the 911R is just more relaxed, extremely analogue, but the biggest difference maker here is the way the power is deliver by both engines and the amount of weight reduction from the 911R vs the GT3 :) value wise... they aren't the same car. A collector that wants a 911R won't just buy a GT3 GT and call it day... it just doesn't happen like that :P
    • schmoopy
      1 week ago 1 P-Nos Points
      I was thinking the 911R is a manual "touring" version of the GT3RS? I am just a peasant and I've never driven one.
    • Oceanman64
      1 week ago 0 P-Nos Points
      All articles I have read from journos about the new GT3 seem to prefer the new 4.0L than the one in the 911R
    • Lunchbox
      1 week ago 0 P-Nos Points
      Would you consider not giving up the gt3 spot with this now? Making the R a keeper like the cgt until people get use to the idea that the touring is 'just' a production gt3? Separate shootout video like the incoming car vid? People would surely be dumb enough to pay premiums like they already are trying to get gt3 spots?
  • 3MC2OG
    1 week ago 0 P-Nos Points
    I think that the 911R will still have that "exclusivity" factor.
    • salomondrin
      1 week ago 1 P-Nos Points
      it's a totally different car... I know everyone thinks it is the same, but it's not. LOL
    • ArvindRS
      1 week ago 0 P-Nos Points
      Maybe GT3 touring package for track day use and 911 R for a beautiful day in the canyons?
  • cmrnbggs
    1 week ago 1 P-Nos Points
    I'd have to argue the 911 R would take a hit in value, unless the idea that it is THE 911 R, could hold its value higher. But, if the reason people wanted a 911 R was to get a GT3 in a tamer body style, then this would make anyone hunting for a good 911 R deal... hit the brakes and just order through their Porsche dealer.
    • ArvindRS
      1 week ago 0 P-Nos Points
      I agree, the 911 R will lose a considerable chunk of the 'enthusiast' crowd. The 911 R market will mostly be propped up by the collector market because of it's limited production run.